#Frihost Viewing logs for 2nd August 2007

[01:48:09] <MadeinIndia> Hi all

[01:50:44] <_SainT_> hi :)

[01:50:56] <MadeinIndia> Hello _SainT_

[01:50:58] <MadeinIndia> sup?

[01:51:04] <_SainT_> All good :)

[01:51:07] <_SainT_> How are you?

[01:51:08] <MadeinIndia> cool

[01:51:20] <MadeinIndia> so, what's new on Frihost

[01:51:47] <_SainT_> Well, the design :P

[01:52:17] <_SainT_> Going pretty slow, but Bondings is the one to blame hehe, he doesn't let anybody to touch his code

[01:52:51] <MadeinIndia> nice

[01:53:00] <MadeinIndia> we all have been waiting for the new design

[01:53:09] <MadeinIndia> infact he told me that the new design is underway pretty long back

[01:53:11] <MadeinIndia> yet to see it

[01:53:17] <_SainT_> Well, change is always good if you ask me

[01:54:13] <MadeinIndia> yep

[01:55:47] <_SainT_> The chat is pretty dead, eh? Oh well, I'll go and finish painting my living room's wall :P

[01:56:09] <MadeinIndia> haha

[01:56:13] <MadeinIndia> so..what's ur site?

[01:56:21] <_SainT_> reviews.underground.cn

[01:56:51] <MadeinIndia> china?

[01:57:10] <_SainT_> from afraid.org

[01:57:30] <MadeinIndia> oh

[01:57:44] <MadeinIndia> I am actually scared to put my domain in afraid

[01:57:50] <MadeinIndia> it's like anyone can use my domain

[01:58:07] <_SainT_> you can make it private

[01:58:29] <MadeinIndia> yeah

[01:58:39] <_SainT_> what's your domain?

[01:58:44] <MadeinIndia> but many people inadvertantly forget about it

[01:58:48] <MadeinIndia> cellyourcity.com

[01:59:13] <MadeinIndia> seen it before?

[01:59:27] <_SainT_> yeah :)

[01:59:37] <MadeinIndia> great

[01:59:39] <MadeinIndia> like it?

[02:00:06] <_SainT_> yeah, I like the design

[02:00:26] <MadeinIndia> thanks

[02:00:55] <_SainT_> about afraid though, I don't think it will be very useful over there

[02:00:58] <MadeinIndia> how many visits do u get per day

[02:01:16] <MadeinIndia> actually not...I have a registrar where I get pretty full control of dns

[02:01:28] <_SainT_> after I submit new content I get dozens, but after that it's pretty empty

[02:02:02] <MadeinIndia> listed on google?

[02:02:09] <_SainT_> should be lol

[02:02:15] <MadeinIndia> I actually get 30-40 visitors per day from google itself

[02:02:23] <_SainT_> nice

[02:02:28] <MadeinIndia> yahoo gets me around 15-20 and the rest of search engines 20

[02:02:37] <_SainT_> well, the content of my site is relevant to a small community

[02:02:38] <MadeinIndia> direct and referall users are around 200

[02:02:45] <MadeinIndia> ya

[02:03:02] <MadeinIndia> some days it goes to 600-700 users a day

[02:03:06] <_SainT_> wow

[02:03:07] <_SainT_> nice

[02:03:21] <MadeinIndia> I am working desperately to increase it

[02:03:36] <MadeinIndia> I am trying to fix a major issue

[02:03:50] <MadeinIndia> my content is hosted on two different servers

[02:03:56] <MadeinIndia> cellyourcity.com and cellyourcity.net

[02:04:26] <MadeinIndia> as all my image content is hosted on .net as I have a paid hosting there, my google pagerank for .com is just 3

[02:04:53] <_SainT_> I'll try to submit some photos from my city :)

[02:05:00] <MadeinIndia> I cannot host my whole site at frihost due to space constraints and I don't want to leave frihost

[02:05:03] <MadeinIndia> which city are u from

[02:05:23] <_SainT_> Petach Tiqwa, Israel

[02:05:27] <_SainT_> near Tel-Aviv

[02:05:30] <MadeinIndia> wow

[02:05:32] <MadeinIndia> that's awesome

[02:05:37] <_SainT_> :)

[02:05:39] <MadeinIndia> why don't u become a guide for us

[02:05:49] <MadeinIndia> do u have a cell phone?

[02:05:50] <_SainT_> what do you mean? :O

[02:05:52] <_SainT_> yeah

[02:05:56] <_SainT_> 6288, Nokia's

[02:05:58] <MadeinIndia> with a camera?

[02:06:01] <MadeinIndia> thats great

[02:06:09] <MadeinIndia> see I will tell u about the whole concept

[02:06:13] <MadeinIndia> u got couple of mins?

[02:06:20] <_SainT_> sure

[02:06:31] <_SainT_> better than painting the damn wall haha

[02:06:37] <MadeinIndia> haha

[02:06:38] <MadeinIndia> ok

[02:06:50] <MadeinIndia> CellYourCity has guides in different cities

[02:07:00] <MadeinIndia> those guides are in charge of their respective cities

[02:07:16] <MadeinIndia> We create a new city section and only the guide can post the pictures for that city

[02:07:35] <MadeinIndia> The guide takes day to day pictures of his city and posts them on the site with interesting description

[02:07:48] <MadeinIndia> he answers users queries on travel and other issues

[02:08:07] <MadeinIndia> We don't have any limit on the pictures

[02:08:19] <MadeinIndia> he can post 2 pictures a week or 200 a week

[02:08:25] <MadeinIndia> it all depends on the guide

[02:08:37] <MadeinIndia> and the revenue

[02:08:48] <MadeinIndia> any sponsorships we get for that city, we split it with the guide

[02:09:08] <MadeinIndia> We managed to get sponsorship for Auckland for 3 months

[02:09:17] <MadeinIndia> we got around $1500 for 3 months

[02:09:34] <MadeinIndia> we split 50-50 with the guide

[02:09:59] <MadeinIndia> we are a new site, not even a year old

[02:10:07] <MadeinIndia> but we were featured in BBC World

[02:10:12] <MadeinIndia> Times of India

[02:10:15] <MadeinIndia> MidDay

[02:10:22] <MadeinIndia> and a few other prestigious newspapers

[02:10:31] <MadeinIndia> you can see the BBC video clip on our homepage

[02:10:42] <_SainT_> Yeah, I saw that

[02:11:03] <_SainT_> Unfortunately though it won't work with me. I don't travel to Tel-Aviv much, and although my town isn't that far from it, it's not as interesting.

[02:12:16] <MadeinIndia> well, how large is ur town

[02:13:04] <_SainT_> about 200,000 residents

[02:13:09] <MadeinIndia> wow that's big

[02:13:16] <MadeinIndia> you can keep it if you want

[02:13:42] <MadeinIndia> The idea is to sell your city to the world with a cell

[02:14:17] <MadeinIndia> We also have YourSpace

[02:14:18] <_SainT_> still, the town is pretty boring... I'll try to send some photos though ;)

[02:14:25] <MadeinIndia> where you can create your own gallery

[02:14:26] <_SainT_> So, can I upload from PC?

[02:14:26] <MadeinIndia> sure

[02:14:30] <MadeinIndia> yes

[02:14:49] <MadeinIndia> For a guide - we create an account for you

[02:14:53] <MadeinIndia> and give you a link

[02:14:59] <MadeinIndia> from there you can upload from your PC

[02:15:18] <MadeinIndia> but if you just want to create a gallery, you can go to "Your Space" and create an account and post it..it's pretty simple

[02:15:29] <MadeinIndia> but pictures posted there are in the general category

[02:15:35] <_SainT_> I've created an account

[02:16:04] <_SainT_> Tomorrow I'll be in the park for my daily jogging, at 5am, and I'll take some pictures ;)

[02:16:20] <MadeinIndia> great

[02:16:32] <MadeinIndia> try for a few days in "Your Space"

[02:16:45] <MadeinIndia> if you see you can do it, we will create a seperate city section for you

[02:17:52] <_SainT_> ok, cool :)

[02:17:57] <MadeinIndia> great

[02:18:03] <MadeinIndia> what's ur name? I am Uday

[02:18:11] <MadeinIndia> u can email me at uday@cellyourcity.com

[02:20:53] <_SainT_> cool... so, all photos are from cell phones?

[02:21:26] <MadeinIndia> yep

[02:21:58] <MadeinIndia> only from cell phones

[02:22:09] <MadeinIndia> How is Israel like?

[02:22:13] <MadeinIndia> I heard it's beautiful

[02:22:58] <_SainT_> Yeah, we have many beautiful places

[02:23:15] <_SainT_> they say Israel has all the nature of the world in a small package

[02:23:20] <MadeinIndia> What about the problem with the palestinians?

[02:23:46] <_SainT_> unfortunately that's very complicated and still far from being solved :(

[02:24:10] <MadeinIndia> Why doesn't Jordan give back the palestinian land first?

[02:24:20] <MadeinIndia> Do you know that even Jordan has taken some off the land?

[02:24:58] <MadeinIndia> I really don't understand...the arabs have their whole middle east for them...Why can't they let the poor jews to live in peace?

[02:25:11] <_SainT_> Good question

[02:26:24] <MadeinIndia> You are not a muslim aren't you?

[02:26:34] <_SainT_> No, I'm Jewish

[02:27:14] <MadeinIndia> thank god

[02:27:25] <MadeinIndia> what's the bloody problem of these muslims and arabs anyway?

[02:28:07] <_SainT_> I have no idea what their leaders are trying to achieve by making this mess

[02:29:23] <MadeinIndia> I am from India

[02:29:30] <MadeinIndia> we are also affected by Islamic extremism

[02:29:34] <_SainT_> Yeah, I guess (your nick) ;)

[02:29:52] <_SainT_> yeah

[02:30:27] <MadeinIndia> haha

[02:30:27] <_SainT_> Islam is a peaceful religion, as far as I know

[02:30:35] <MadeinIndia> you are mistaken

[02:30:39] <MadeinIndia> that's the cover they have

[02:30:42] <MadeinIndia> to fool the world

[02:31:15] <MadeinIndia> The only aim muslims have is to make the whole world come under Islamic rule

[02:31:18] <MadeinIndia> that's their plan

[02:31:42] <_SainT_> That's what the extemists want

[02:32:06] <MadeinIndia> The basic problem is...

[02:32:15] <MadeinIndia> In Hinduism or Christianity or Judaism

[02:32:32] <MadeinIndia> we say...we have our religion...you have your religion...

[02:32:37] <MadeinIndia> let's respect each other

[02:33:16] <MadeinIndia> We are all praying to one supernatural power...but using different routes

[02:33:23] <_SainT_> well, I wouldn't say that about Christianity... history tells a different story.

[02:33:45] <MadeinIndia> but in Islam...they don't respect other religions..they say other religions are crap and false and only theirs is real

[02:34:11] <MadeinIndia> Christianity did do some bad things I agree

[02:34:25] <MadeinIndia> but the basic idea of christianity is peace

[02:34:31] <_SainT_> Yeah, I agree

[02:35:20] <MadeinIndia> keep watching...as days pass by...the world will be divided into Islam and the rest of the world

[02:35:25] <MadeinIndia> if it is already not

[02:35:42] <MadeinIndia> And if you notice, Islam has a problem with almost every religion

[02:36:01] <_SainT_> Maybe, Islamic community is very, very large

[02:36:15] <_SainT_> but still, the major part of muslims are peaceful

[02:36:26] <_SainT_> yet who knows when one changes his mind

[02:36:26] <MadeinIndia> well...Hindus are almost a billion strong

[02:36:43] <MadeinIndia> Do you see any Hindus blowing up themselves or innocent people?

[02:36:56] <MadeinIndia> Did you ever connect any violence with Hindus?

[02:37:09] <MadeinIndia> One small example

[02:37:13] <MadeinIndia> recently in UK

[02:37:23] <_SainT_> the opposite. Hindus are very peaceful.

[02:37:30] <MadeinIndia> a footwear company came out with a footwear product

[02:37:39] <MadeinIndia> with the images of Hindu gods printed on it

[02:37:49] <MadeinIndia> It is obviously insulting and degrading

[02:37:50] <MadeinIndia> right?

[02:38:05] <_SainT_> I guess

[02:38:14] <MadeinIndia> So what did Hindus do?

[02:38:23] <MadeinIndia> They came out with an email campaign

[02:38:31] <MadeinIndia> did Media appeals

[02:38:41] <MadeinIndia> Peaceful protests

[02:38:52] <MadeinIndia> and the company withdrew the product and apologised

[02:38:58] <_SainT_> But when those comics showed up, the muslims burned flags and whatnot

[02:39:07] <MadeinIndia> Now compare it with cartoons of Mohammed

[02:39:10] <MadeinIndia> haha

[02:39:17] <MadeinIndia> in Norway

[02:39:26] <MadeinIndia> many people were killed, if you did not know this

[02:39:33] <_SainT_> I've heard

[02:39:37] <MadeinIndia> violent riots all across the world

[02:39:53] <MadeinIndia> If your religion is so peaceful...then why such violence?

[02:40:01] <MadeinIndia> Why could you not protest peacefully?

[02:40:15] <_SainT_> I guess the fundemental values are wrong, or wrongly understood

[02:40:32] <MadeinIndia> If you feel that your religion was insulted, make others understand make them apologize from within...not by force

[02:40:39] <MadeinIndia> their whole mindset is wrong

[02:40:50] <MadeinIndia> I really doubt if they have any values

[02:41:40] <MadeinIndia> trust me...we all are facing a grave danger

[02:41:58] <_SainT_> time will show

[02:42:06] <MadeinIndia> it's already showing

[02:42:12] <_SainT_> but being prepared is always a better choice, if you ask me

[02:42:18] <MadeinIndia> exactly

[02:42:20] <_SainT_> than ignoring

[02:42:37] <MadeinIndia> I have seen some of the riots with my own eyes

[02:42:43] <MadeinIndia> Muslims running with swords in their hands

[02:42:48] <MadeinIndia> seen dead bodies

[02:43:17] <MadeinIndia> In your country, Military service is mandatory for everyone right?

[02:43:23] <_SainT_> yeah

[02:43:30] <_SainT_> my friend fought in gaza

[02:43:38] <_SainT_> I didn't because of health issues

[02:43:42] <MadeinIndia> okay

[02:43:51] <MadeinIndia> even women are made to fight right?

[02:43:55] <_SainT_> yes

[02:43:56] <_SainT_> everyone

[02:43:58] <MadeinIndia> I really admire Israel for this

[02:44:12] <_SainT_> we wouldn't survive otherwise

[02:44:23] <MadeinIndia> yeah

[02:44:57] <MadeinIndia> Your Mossad is like admired all over the world eh

[02:45:08] <_SainT_> Mossad is the secret serives

[02:45:12] <_SainT_> service*

[02:45:14] <MadeinIndia> yep

[02:45:32] <MadeinIndia> I saw a movie how Mossad agents took revenge of the killings of their olympic team

[02:45:42] <MadeinIndia> how they track down the killers one by one

[02:45:48] <_SainT_> yeah

[02:45:59] <_SainT_> also the capture of the Nazi officer in Argentina

[02:46:05] <MadeinIndia> I don't recall the name of the movie

[02:46:06] <MadeinIndia> yep

[02:46:43] <MadeinIndia> You know any holocaust survivors?

[02:46:58] <_SainT_> My grandmother?

[02:47:09] <MadeinIndia> whoa

[02:47:13] <MadeinIndia> really?

[02:47:15] <_SainT_> Ran away to Russia in WWII

[02:47:27] <_SainT_> that's how the family survived

[02:47:38] <_SainT_> otherwise I wouldn't be here I guess

[02:47:39] <MadeinIndia> she around today?

[02:47:48] <MadeinIndia> haha

[02:47:50] <_SainT_> Yeah

[02:48:11] <MadeinIndia> she must be telling u all her experiences

[02:48:17] <_SainT_> Not for long I guess :(... that generation is getting old

[02:48:36] <MadeinIndia> yeah...it's kind of sad...to see that generation slip away

[02:48:58] <_SainT_> Well, she wasn't in the camps or anything, but she was under German bombings etc

[02:49:12] <MadeinIndia> oh

[02:49:15] <_SainT_> I have met people which survived the caps

[02:49:17] <_SainT_> camps*

[02:49:19] <MadeinIndia> She was in germany?

[02:49:35] <_SainT_> My family is from north germany/scandinavia

[02:49:51] <MadeinIndia> okay

[02:50:06] <MadeinIndia> That time it was Nazis, now it's Islamists

[02:50:14] <MadeinIndia> Why do these villains keep cropping up?

[02:50:38] <_SainT_> If that's really the reality, then it will be far far more vast than what the germans did

[02:50:53] <MadeinIndia> yep

[02:50:59] <_SainT_> Worldwide compared to Europe

[02:51:04] <MadeinIndia> exactly

[02:51:16] <MadeinIndia> Now Indians are not taking their stuff lying down

[02:51:22] <MadeinIndia> I mean Hindus

[02:51:33] <MadeinIndia> We don't really consider Muslims in India as Indians neither do they

[02:51:53] <MadeinIndia> They recently burned down a train filled with Hindus

[02:51:56] <MadeinIndia> in Gujrat

[02:51:57] <_SainT_> that's (still) not the case here

[02:52:10] <MadeinIndia> Hindus burnt thousands of Muslims back

[02:52:17] <MadeinIndia> they are now shit scared in Gujrat

[02:52:40] <MadeinIndia> thanks

[02:52:49] <MadeinIndia> yeah

[02:53:20] <MadeinIndia> Do you know about Mumbai Bomb Blasts?

[02:53:33] <_SainT_> Yeah, hundreds died

[02:53:37] <_SainT_> if I'm not mistaken

[02:53:49] <MadeinIndia> Yes

[02:53:52] <_SainT_> that was really horrible

[02:53:56] <MadeinIndia> yep

[02:54:21] <MadeinIndia> Same like Israel, we Indians face bomb blasts almost daily

[02:54:34] <MadeinIndia> and more recently, the bomb blasts in trains in Mumbai

[02:54:53] <MadeinIndia> See, their logic for Israel is...

[02:55:03] <MadeinIndia> Israel belonged to them and jews should vacate it...

[02:55:06] <MadeinIndia> right?

[02:55:25] <MadeinIndia> Going by the same logic...Pakistan belonged to Hindus before...Shouldn't Muslims vacate it?

[02:56:30] <MadeinIndia> and going by the facts in fact...Israel and the whole surrounding area belonged to Jews and it was much older religion than theirs

[02:56:34] <MadeinIndia> they had taken it by force

[02:56:45] <_SainT_> Not the whole area, but I guess

[02:57:58] <MadeinIndia> yeah

[02:59:47] <_SainT_> I'm not sure if he really took it by force though. Most of the lands were bought by Jewish money actually.

[02:59:51] <_SainT_> we*

[03:00:24] <MadeinIndia> so then what's their problem

[03:00:27] <MadeinIndia> anyway

[03:00:30] <MadeinIndia> they are morons

[03:00:36] <MadeinIndia> I am sick and tired of all this violence

[03:00:39] <MadeinIndia> innocents dying

[03:01:27] <_SainT_> Yeah, that's really sad. If only the leaders could fight somewhere in a ring and let the regular people watch...

[03:01:50] <MadeinIndia> haha, those mullahs will definitely win

[03:01:55] <MadeinIndia> you know their diet

[03:01:57] <MadeinIndia> lol

[03:02:02] <MadeinIndia> they are like animals

[03:02:08] <_SainT_> :P

[03:02:15] <MadeinIndia> Majority of Hindus are vegetarians

[03:02:17] <MadeinIndia> haha

[03:02:33] <MadeinIndia> but on battlefield, we have some great people

[03:02:36] <MadeinIndia> The Sikhs

[03:02:41] <_SainT_> I'd recommend the leaders to read some good literature, like Sun Tzu's Art of War, and similar...

[03:02:42] <MadeinIndia> they are ferocious warriors

[03:03:04] <_SainT_> off topic: tidruG is a sikh :P

[03:03:17] <MadeinIndia> I think so

[03:03:38] <_SainT_> anyway, I must go and finish the painting.. getting dark

[03:03:42] <_SainT_> be back in few minutes

[03:03:44] <MadeinIndia> ok

[03:03:51] <MadeinIndia> take care

[03:03:54] <MadeinIndia> bye bye

[03:03:58] <_SainT_> thanks for the conversation :)

[03:04:07] <MadeinIndia> same here :)

[05:06:14] <Vrythramax> hello

[05:20:48] <Vrythramax> lurkers.

[05:28:46] <Rvec> hello lagger :P

[05:29:12] <Rvec> still didn't but the splitter did you?

[05:31:25] <Rvec> i love that game

[05:33:22] <Vrythramax> I lag because no-one talks and I finds someting else to do

[05:52:20] <Rvec> I idle because no-one talks and I finds someting else to do :P

[05:56:35] <Vrythramax> you slwys idle if there is a conversation going on or not

[05:59:28] <Vrythramax> and if you are trying to tick me offf by copying my mistakes....your succeeding.

[06:09:42] <Vrythramax> clones

[06:30:55] <Vrythramax> .join #frihost-design

[07:00:38] <mathiaus> 03helooo

[07:12:01] <mathiaus> 03:(

[07:26:38] <Vrythramax> hi mathius

[07:26:43] <mathiaus> 03:O

[07:26:44] <mathiaus> 03hi :)

[07:26:51] <Vrythramax> sorry ,athiaus

[07:27:04] <mathiaus> 03np

[07:27:54] <Vrythramax> I keep spelling it wrong....you'd think I have it fown by now

[07:28:02] <Vrythramax> down*

[07:28:15] <mathiaus> 03no-one speels it right

[07:28:18] <mathiaus> 03just call me matt

[07:28:24] <mathiaus> 03easier to rember as well :P

[07:28:30] <Vrythramax> I can remember that

[07:28:33] <mathiaus> 03http://foody.homeftp.net/gr/

[07:28:34] <Vrythramax> :)

[07:28:43] <mathiaus> 03I'm nearning finishing it :)

[07:28:45] <mathiaus> 03lol

[07:29:15] <Vrythramax> nice looking site

[07:29:40] <mathiaus> 03I'm coding it from http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/59990131/ for someone in the marketplace :)

[07:29:46] <mathiaus> 03trying to earn some frih

[07:30:05] <Vrythramax> I belong to deviantart also

[07:30:22] <mathiaus> 03did they buy your soul or something? :P

[07:30:53] <Vrythramax> nah....I traded that for a neww HDD and some RAM

[07:31:20] <mathiaus> 03helios needs a new HDD I think

[07:31:42] <mathiaus> 03and thats a pooor deal unless you got mac memory and 16GB or something daft

[07:32:26] <Vrythramax> 360gb HADD and 2048 ram

[07:33:07] <mathiaus> 03you got the bad end of the bargain I'm afraid

[07:33:32] <Vrythramax> I always get the fuzzy end of the lollipop

[07:33:33] <mathiaus> 03unless your sould was crippled and in a genarally poor state

[07:33:36] <mathiaus> 03LOL

[07:33:56] <mathiaus> 03I've never heard it put like that before

[07:34:11] <Vrythramax> Rvec is RAEL pissed at me

[07:34:56] <mathiaus> 03why?

[07:35:30] <Vrythramax> I plan on cutting off connectins from his cgi:irc client

[07:35:56] <Vrythramax> to many security flawys he either can't or won't fix

[07:39:11] <Vrythramax> I picked a sweet job tonight

[07:39:23] <mathiaus> 03:?:

[07:39:29] <mathiaus> 03(?)

[07:39:52] <Vrythramax> my personal doctor wants me to netwrok his entire office :)

[07:40:09] <mathiaus> 03cool

[07:40:34] <Vrythramax> can ou say NARCOTICS?

[07:40:39] <Vrythramax> rofl

[07:41:03] <mathiaus> 03nar-cot-ic-s

[07:41:09] <mathiaus> 03I don't get the joke

[07:41:11] <mathiaus> 03:(

[07:41:31] <Vrythramax> very good matt....you may have a kolonopin

[07:41:58] <Vrythramax> it was a joke....I charge him for pills

[07:42:26] <mathiaus> 03I still don't get it :?:

[07:42:44] <Vrythramax> I'M KIDDING

[07:42:56] <mathiaus> 03was it meant to be funny

[07:43:10] <mathiaus> 03I know your joking, I don't know how though

[07:43:18] <Vrythramax> 9 machines, backups....it's gonna cost him $2,000

[07:43:24] <mathiaus> 03:O

[07:43:56] <Vrythramax> not to mention time and labor

[07:44:47] <Vrythramax> and it's all off the books ;)

[07:48:16] <Rvec> am i allowed to keep the webclient open or should i close that?

[07:49:05] <Vrythramax> given the fact that no op can ban a user from that client....I think we should find an alternative

[07:49:14] <Rvec> yes you can

[07:49:27] <Rvec> just ban the thing in front of the @

[07:49:49] <Rvec> not *!*@...

[07:50:01] <Rvec> but ...@*

[07:50:41] <Rvec> want me to show you what i mean?

[07:51:18] <Vrythramax> I really think we should find an alternative.....feel free to bring it to management and I will follow their dictates

[07:51:41] <Rvec> their ip is in the hostmask

[07:51:50] <Rvec> just ban that part and they can't join

[07:52:24] <Vrythramax> you and understand that....do all the other mods???

[07:52:51] <Rvec> you and i are mostly available for help if some mod wants to ban

[07:53:19] <Rvec> and there is one other way

[07:53:31] <Rvec> but we would need our own ircd for that

[07:53:55] <Vrythramax> just what I have beeen pushing for

[07:54:02] <mathiaus> 03As a member of the 'nice' team,I don't ban people

[07:54:18] <mathiaus> 03thats my excuse

[07:54:56] <Vrythramax> oh your just scared of the hste pm's

[07:55:05] <Vrythramax> hate*

[07:55:05] <Rvec> well if we can manage to get a server i know how to set up an ircd, services and cgiirc

[07:55:35] <Rvec> got it all working here but that's not good enought for 10+ users

[07:55:48] <Vrythramax> I have a server w/services....but no permission

[07:55:52] <mathiaus> 03I got worse PM's from account rejections max!

[07:56:09] <Vrythramax> oh gawd...me too!

[07:56:40] <Rvec> irc.bierkip.nl :P

[07:57:34] <Vrythramax> did you ever get my modes fixed?

[07:58:55] <Rvec> they where good

[07:59:12] <Rvec> but you used the commands in the wrong order

[07:59:30] <Vrythramax> chanserv wouldn't recognize me for ctipes sake

[07:59:49] <Rvec> first id to nickserv, then oper, then operserv superadmin and then chanserv op

[08:00:17] <Vrythramax> ahhh....I follow your commands to the letter nd I screwed up

[08:00:19] <Rvec> if you are superadmin you have founder rights to every chan

[08:00:48] <Rvec> but even i have to use operserv superadmin before i have those rights

[08:01:18] <Vrythramax> operserv wouldn't recognize me

[08:01:20] <Vrythramax> lol

[08:01:35] <Vrythramax> adminserv thought I was joking

[08:02:12] <Rvec> there is no adminserv, and operserv worker i tried it with your login

[08:02:20] <Rvec> :P

[08:02:57] <Vrythramax> I know adminserv/operserv have ben combined

[08:03:23] <Rvec> the only thing i have to find out is how to make someone services admin without a block

[08:05:32] <Vrythramax> may I point out one small detail you seem to be missing?

[08:05:43] <Rvec> sure

[08:06:11] <Vrythramax> most mods here aren't terribly irc literate.....that's alot of commands just to login

[08:06:58] <Vrythramax> no offense mathiaus

[08:07:09] <Rvec> yeah i know but they can login that way and they can be oped the way they are here

[08:07:18] <Rvec> with services

[08:07:30] <Rvec> or with the botserv i also have working

[08:07:53] <mathiaus> 03non taken. I know I'm a moron when it comes to IRC. I make up for it with other skills though :P

[08:08:43] <Vrythramax> your using darknet ircd?

[08:08:57] <Rvec> bahamut

[08:09:05] <Vrythramax> ok

[08:09:25] <Rvec> and anope services

[08:10:28] <Vrythramax> I doubt Bondings will go for it....but ask away

[08:10:45] <Rvec> and to show a users real host with cgiirc: http://cgiirc.org/docs/advanced.php

[08:10:53] <Rvec> 3th item

[08:11:42] <Vrythramax> lol

[08:12:31] <Vrythramax> you really think users are going to read and understand that when they won't even read the TOS for free hosting???????????

[08:12:42] <Rvec> the users don't have to

[08:12:58] <Rvec> the one setting up the server and the cgiirc client has to

[08:13:19] <Vrythramax> take it up with Bondings

[08:13:40] <Rvec> i won;t have the time for that in the next few weeks

[08:13:51] <Vrythramax> I'm only a figurehead here

[08:14:28] <Rvec> i will go on vacation for 2 weeks in a couple of days

[08:14:37] <Rvec> 4 days

[08:14:46] <Vrythramax> cool

[08:15:06] <Rvec> i will show you how to find the ip of a cgiirc users

[08:15:13] <Vrythramax> btw....I got the stats working

[08:15:22] <Rvec> what stats?

[08:15:32] <Vrythramax> mircstats

[08:15:45] <Rvec> ah nice

[08:15:55] <Vrythramax> http://irc-stats.kenshi.net

[08:16:07] <mathiaus> 03hi

[08:16:12] <Rvec> that's me

[08:16:19] <mathiaus> 03oh :(

[08:16:25] <Rvec> Vrythramax: try a whois

[08:16:40] <Rvec> ~c0a80105@h8922075221.dsl.speedlinq.nl

[08:16:47] <Vrythramax> [06:13pm] *** Frihostuser11 (~c0a80105@h8922075221.dsl.speedlinq.nl) has joined #frihost

[08:16:57] <Vrythramax> it tells me when you join

[08:17:01] <Rvec> ok

[08:17:25] <Rvec> you need the part in front of the @

[08:17:45] <Rvec> make a script like this:

[08:17:47] <Rvec> <?php

[08:17:47] <Rvec> $cgiirc = 'c0a80105';

[08:17:47] <Rvec> echo long2ip(hexdec($cgiirc));

[08:17:47] <Rvec> ?>

[08:18:02] <Rvec> and open it

[08:18:07] <Rvec> it will show the ip

[08:18:22] <Rvec> should be 192.168.1.5

[08:18:57] <Vrythramax> I can do the same by simpy typing /dns user

[08:19:14] <Rvec> well that's even easyer

[08:19:52] <Rvec> if you give me the ip i can ban that on the client

[08:20:38] <Rvec> if you ban c0a80105@h8922075221.dsl.speedlinq.nl and not *!*@h8922075221.dsl.speedlinq.nl you will ban only one ip

[08:20:43] <Vrythramax> frihost wil not give over control to a non mod.

[08:22:04] <Rvec> well you can let a mod create a webclient

[08:22:35] <Rvec> it's not that hard to make one

[08:22:50] <Vrythramax> this is pointless....take it up with Bondings.

[08:29:34] <Rvec> do you think bondings cares about the irc chat?

[08:30:03] <Rvec> it's a real small thing atm

[08:34:03] <Vrythramax> well....he's the one that makes the descions.

[08:37:24] <Vrythramax> if i's such a "small" thing....why are pushing so hard?

[08:38:40] <Vrythramax> why not link to a real network?

[08:41:10] <Rvec> it's a small thing compared to the forum

[08:41:25] <Vrythramax> why not link to a real network?

[08:41:33] <Rvec> what network?

[08:41:54] <Vrythramax> there are plenty out there

[08:42:22] <Vrythramax> and they are all looking for leaf servers

[08:42:34] <Rvec> you need a lot of resources for that

[08:43:04] <Rvec> most only allow you if you have a nice connection and are not private

[08:43:24] <Vrythramax> I was linked to Dal and I only had a T-1

[08:43:47] <Rvec> i thought you needed a big connection and a big server for that

[08:44:03] <Rvec> capable of 2500 users

[08:44:21] <Vrythramax> I was capable of 10,000

[08:44:38] <Rvec> ok maybe the thing said 25k

[08:44:57] <Rvec> 1 min

[08:46:51] <Vrythramax> this is pointless....take it up with Bondings.

[08:47:04] <Rvec> heard that before

[08:47:08] <Rvec> yeah i know

[08:47:20] <Rvec> but i don't have the time to make it all clear to him

[08:47:42] <Rvec> i have to go to sleep in a couple of min and have a lot to do before going on vacation in 4 days

[08:47:44] <Vrythramax> I CAN'T make that descion....only he can

[08:47:49] <Rvec> i know

[08:48:13] <Rvec> but i think we can hold out a couple of weeks more this way

[08:48:33] <Vrythramax> you can bet on that

[08:50:48] <Vrythramax> do you think this is going to die if your not here?

[08:50:56] <Rvec> i think not

[08:51:04] <Rvec> i hope not

[08:51:15] <Vrythramax> what an ego

[08:51:22] <Rvec> :P

[08:51:47] <Rvec> cya

[08:52:04] <Vrythramax> goodbye

[11:00:30] <Traveller-Frihost> Well, really busy in here! LOL!

[14:02:42] <_SainT_> hello

[14:05:04] <_SainT_> hello

[22:04:19] <_SainT_> hello

[22:04:21] <_SainT_> :)

[22:09:14] <mathiaus> 03hi

[22:09:44] <_SainT_> hi

[22:09:49] <_SainT_> what's up?

[22:09:49] <mathiaus> 03:)

[22:09:52] <Rvec> morning

[22:10:19] <mathiaus> 03finishing the layout I've been coding for someone http://foody.homeftp.net/gr/#

[22:10:30] <mathiaus> 03the javscript for it is a pain

[22:10:42] <mathiaus> 03and I'm eating ice cream :D

[22:10:51] <mathiaus> 03hi rvec

[22:11:07] <_SainT_> Adding some photos to "cellyourcity"

[22:11:14] <_SainT_> MadeInIndia's site

[22:11:15] <_SainT_> :)

[22:11:17] <mathiaus> 03thats a god site

[22:11:22] <mathiaus> 03good* :P

[22:11:32] <mathiaus> 03which city you doing?

[22:11:36] <_SainT_> mine

[22:11:41] <mathiaus> 03lol

[22:11:47] <_SainT_> http://www.cellyourcity.com/wap/gallery.php?username=-SainT-

[22:12:47] <mathiaus> 03good looking weather

[22:12:56] <_SainT_> hot as hell

[22:13:03] <_SainT_> 30 degrees avg

[22:13:09] <_SainT_> if not more

[22:14:11] <_SainT_> i've actually climed on that tank :P

[22:14:13] <_SainT_> lol

[22:14:57] <mathiaus> 03been in one?

[22:15:15] <_SainT_> sure, but not this one

[22:15:23] <mathiaus> 03is it sealed?

[22:15:25] <_SainT_> we have a very large museum of tanks and war machines

[22:15:27] <_SainT_> yeah

[22:15:44] <_SainT_> somewhere near jerusalem

[22:16:21] <Rvec> i've been there once

[22:16:53] <_SainT_> :)

[22:17:15] <_SainT_> anyway, on a tour they allowed us to see some insides

[22:17:34] <_SainT_> nice place. Really hot though in summer days

[22:26:20] <_SainT_> alright

[22:26:22] <_SainT_> finished

[22:27:11] <mathiaus> 03nice ponds

[22:28:31] <_SainT_> :)

[22:29:10] <_SainT_> Lol, on this one: http://www.cellyourcity.com/wap/file_uploads/pond12.jpg

[22:29:21] <_SainT_> I almost fell into the water climbing on the rocks :P

[22:29:48] <_SainT_> (it's not allowed either, had to climb over the fence lol)

[22:29:54] <mathiaus> 03lol

[22:30:00] <_SainT_> :P

[22:31:07] <_SainT_> anyway, I'm off to play test drive

[22:31:10] <_SainT_> just got it

[22:31:12] <_SainT_> :)

[22:31:19] <mathiaus> 03lol, have fun :D

[22:31:28] <_SainT_> should fly now on 8800

[22:36:17] <Rvec> i have a headset now so i can join the teamspeak :D

[22:36:44] <mathiaus> 03I have one too, I haven't been brave enough to join in yet though :P

[22:36:52] <mathiaus> 03whats swat like?

[22:36:55] <Rvec> try swat4 it's cool

[22:37:04] <Rvec> bit like cs

[22:37:18] <mathiaus> 03how much is it

[22:37:24] <mathiaus> 03*the deciding factor*

[22:37:50] <Rvec> you can arrest and kill enemys

[22:37:58] <Rvec> arrests are 5 points

[22:38:01] <Rvec> kill 1

[22:38:24] <mathiaus> 03it's better to arrest them :O

[22:38:30] <mathiaus> 03wheres the fun in that?

[22:38:42] <Rvec> it's fun to arrest

[22:38:59] <Rvec> but it's a lot harder

[22:39:28] <Rvec> http://www.gamespot.com/video/920508/6120447/swat-4-official-trailer-1

[22:40:49] <mathiaus> 03looks a little like the regiment

[22:41:12] <Rvec> you should try it

[22:41:27] <Rvec> btw you can go online with an illegal version ;)

[22:41:42] <mathiaus> 03wow

[22:41:49] <mathiaus> 03most games manage to block that

[22:41:59] <mathiaus> 03but of course I would NEVER use illegal software

[22:42:06] <mathiaus> 03</legal disclaimer>

[22:42:08] <Rvec> neither would i

[22:44:17] <mathiaus> 03right I'm off now for a bit (BF2), I'll check out that game on ebay later :)

[23:35:13] <_SainT_> hello

[23:35:42] <Traveller-Frihost> Hello.

[23:36:09] <_SainT_> Hi Traveller :)

[23:36:14] <Traveller-Frihost> So....Roger Moore is visiting us? LOL!

[23:36:21] <_SainT_> lol

[23:36:38] <_SainT_> How was your trip?

[23:41:59] <Traveller-Frihost> Great!

[23:42:08] <Traveller-Frihost> Busy juggling a few other things now.

[23:42:26] <_SainT_> Oh, ok

[23:42:51] <Traveller-Frihost> Not the least of which is getting Honduran passports and U.S. visas so a girl, here, with thyroid cancer, can get to the States for surgery.

[23:43:48] <_SainT_> Oh, good luck :O I hope she'll be fine

[23:44:19] <Traveller-Frihost> Same here.

[23:44:51] <Traveller-Frihost> Just waiting for the embassy appointments for the visas, so most of the initial legwork is done.

[23:45:04] <Traveller-Frihost> Now I can get back to a Linux server I'm setting up for a school.

[23:45:50] <_SainT_> Schools use linux?

[23:45:56] <_SainT_> that's new (for me)

[23:49:03] <_SainT_> Well, I need to get some food

[23:49:13] <_SainT_> See you later, and good luck!