#Frihost Viewing logs for 9th October 2008

[07:42:32] <Rvec> hmm only thursday here

[10:16:07] <Yaron> hellow

[12:42:53] <HalfBloodPrince> Hello

[12:48:29] <Tobias> Go away.

[12:48:45] <HalfBloodPrince> Nou

[14:41:31] <Yaron> hpb stop reconnection every 10 min :P

[16:10:47] <Yaron> :o it works

[16:11:11] <Yaron> oh lol he isn't even in

[16:12:39] <Yaron> :P

[16:13:08] <Tobias> A really clean sock, that is :O

[16:13:23] <Yaron> kk good, else I'd have to ban you :P

[16:18:58] <Hammy> !admin

[16:19:01] <Hammy> wrong channel

[16:19:22] <Yaron> :o he speaks

[16:19:45] <Hammy> when spoken to =]

[16:21:03] <Yaron> :P

[16:21:28] <Hammy> remember that image u made meh with the song title on it?

[16:21:41] <Yaron> yeah

[16:22:00] <Yaron> I still have it somewhere

[16:22:06] <Hammy> wld u be able to change the stream n password? .. like, whenever i get a site going agen

[16:22:15] <Hammy> i've just finished the mIRC bot .. the other day

[16:22:21] <Hammy> n just finnished the MSN bot today

[16:22:28] <Yaron> :o nice

[16:22:44] <Hammy> i need to work on a Relay bot ..and work on writeing stats to SQL

[16:22:45] <Yaron> how would you want to change the pass and url?

[16:23:06] <Yaron> I think it's just a va set at the beginning

[16:23:10] <Yaron> *var

[16:23:10] <Hammy> the stream has changed.. so it wld need toget the xml data from different ip

[16:24:24] <Hammy> um well all i have is the .png files

[16:24:34] <Yaron> oh I see, it's set in the script, but not as a var

[16:24:41] <Hammy> ;)

[16:24:46] <Yaron> you could change it with any text editor though

[16:25:04] <Yaron> even normal notepad would do the job

[16:25:38] <Hammy> ahh i see =]

[16:25:58] <Yaron> :)

[16:26:06] <Hammy> Tah <3

[16:27:20] <Hammy> i need a new person

[16:27:51] <Hammy> wld u be willing to test my msn bot ? .. i need to know if it's idiot proof lol

[16:28:03] <Hammy> not calling u an idiot :p .. just i need to know if it's easy to understand

[16:28:08] <Yaron> :P

[16:28:16] <Tobias> http://projecteuler.net/index.php?section=problems&id=19

[16:28:20] <Tobias> Worked it out =]

[16:28:27] <Tobias> Problems Solved: 30 out of 211

[16:28:27] <Yaron> yarontal12[at]gmail.com

[16:29:00] <Yaron> Tobias: doesn't php have build in date stuff to do half the job?

[16:29:22] <Tobias> mmhmm

[16:29:27] <Tobias> But it doesn't do this amount of time

[16:29:31] <Tobias> It's limited

[16:29:42] <Yaron> ah yes 1970

[16:29:47] <Yaron> forgot

[16:30:02] <Hammy> i cnt add u.. u need to add the bot: juke-box[at]hotmail.co.uk

[16:30:50] <Yaron> added

[16:31:21] <Yaron> what now?

[16:32:02] <Hammy> umm

[16:38:04] <Hammy> okay got it fixed lol

[16:38:05] <Hammy> try now

[16:38:21] <Hammy> my mate is requesting stupid songs tho

[16:38:41] <Tobias> Ham

[16:38:43] <Tobias> Did you write it?

[16:39:55] <Tobias> Hammy, it's not accepting friends :/

[16:40:14] <Yaron> rofl

[16:40:19] <Hammy> yeh i know i dunno whats wrong with it

[16:40:26] <Tobias> Anyhow

[16:40:32] <Tobias> Did you write it, Hammy?

[16:40:51] <Hammy> write what?

[16:40:58] <Yaron> the msn bot :P

[16:41:00] <Tobias> The bot :<

[16:41:06] <Hammy> notice/pm me ur addy i'll add u manualy

[16:41:11] <Tobias> No, I'm asking if you wrote Harry Potter :<

[16:41:20] <Hammy> yeh i did

[16:41:26] <Yaron> cool

[16:41:26] <Tobias> Python? :O

[16:41:32] <Hammy> i've wrote it all .. theres' like 3000+ lines just to play songs lol

[16:41:37] <Hammy> no.. MSL

[16:41:40] <Hammy> lol

[16:42:50] <Tobias> Wait

[16:42:54] <Tobias> mIRC script?

[16:42:57] <Hammy> yeh

[16:43:08] <Tobias> WTF :|

[16:43:36] <Tobias> Kind of eww :P

[16:44:09] <Hammy> whys that?

[16:44:12] <Yaron> mirc script for an msn bot? :S

[16:45:09] <Tobias> Indeed :<

[16:45:42] <Hammy> well it started off as a mirc thing

[16:48:59] <Tobias> That's.. a bit fail :|

[16:49:22] <Yaron> lol

[16:49:41] <Tobias> And when I mean a bit I mean epic :|

[16:49:50] <Tobias> And when I mean epic I mean halfbloodprince :|

[16:50:22] <Hammy> and when u mean fail u mean jelous

[16:50:41] <Tobias> Nooo >_>

[16:50:51] <Tobias> My site's worth $3,000 ^_^

[16:50:55] <Tobias> != jelous

[16:51:26] <Yaron> lol

[17:04:48] <Yaron> bbl going home

[19:08:53] <Gurdit> who's there?

[19:24:38] <Tobias> Heyhey

[19:24:45] <Gurdit> hi

[19:32:06] <Gurdit> what's up?

[19:32:26] <Tobias> Pastebin.ws makering

[19:32:43] <Gurdit> makering?

[19:33:36] <Tobias> http://dev.pastebin.ws/login

[19:42:05] <This-Alex> Hey guys

[19:42:15] <This-Alex> Still using CI tobias?

[19:42:36] <This-Alex> is "This will only log you in to Pastebin.ws and not any other .ws tools websites" nessacery?

[19:42:47] <This-Alex> *necessary

[19:42:52] <Gurdit> what's CI?

[19:43:02] <Tobias> Yes, it is This-Alex :<

[19:43:05] <This-Alex> CodeIgniter - A coding framework

[19:43:11] <Gurdit> ok

[19:43:30] <Tobias> Until I work out a /clean/ way to make it log you into zURL/DNSStuff/PicHost and Pastebin at the same time

[19:43:33] <Tobias> it remains there :<

[19:43:45] <Gurdit> DNS Stuff?

[19:43:59] <Tobias> http://www.dnstools.ws

[19:44:02] <Tobias> I think

[19:44:13] <Tobias> Daniel15 made it

[19:44:22] <Tobias> I'm trying to merge our sites into a great big network of .ws sites =]

[19:44:26] <Gurdit> ok

[19:44:37] <Gurdit> on DNStools, display the user's IP on the top

[19:44:40] <This-Alex> Do you own those other sites Tobias?

[19:44:41] <Gurdit> like it does on dnsstuff.com

[19:44:43] <Tobias> And of course I'm still using CI, This-Alex

[19:44:45] <Tobias> Not really

[19:44:50] <Tobias> I helped with pic-host

[19:44:55] <Tobias> A bit xE

[19:44:56] <Tobias> xD*

[19:44:58] <Tobias> I designed it

[19:45:04] <Tobias> But Daniel15 hasn't implemented that yet

[19:45:08] <Tobias> So I might rewrite his code *sneaky*

[19:45:10] <This-Alex> Here's how I'd do it:

[19:45:17] <This-Alex> Make a login page on pastebin.ws

[19:45:45] <This-Alex> Wait

[19:45:49] <This-Alex> Are they on the same server?

[19:45:52] <Tobias> Nope.

[19:45:55] <This-Alex> oh

[19:46:04] <This-Alex> then that makes it a little harder

[19:46:16] <Gurdit> I gotta go

[19:46:18] <Gurdit> catch you guys later

[19:46:22] <Tobias> Byeee ^_^

[19:46:22] <This-Alex> bye gurdit

[19:46:24] <Tobias> This-Alex

[19:46:42] <Tobias> I'm thinking of using encrypted/hashed GET variables in iFrames

[19:46:54] <This-Alex> :-/

[19:47:03] <Tobias> Or have Daniel work out some AJAX soloution

[19:47:19] <This-Alex> Ajax only works on one domain

[19:47:27] <Tobias> Nooo

[19:47:29] <Tobias> It doesn't

[19:47:33] <Tobias> XMLHTTPREQUEST

[19:47:37] <Tobias> That's flash you're thinking of

[19:47:38] <Tobias> Or cookies

[19:47:40] <Tobias> Or something >_>

[19:48:02] <This-Alex> http://www.nathanm.com/ajax-bypassing-xmlhttprequest-cross-domain-restriction/

[19:48:34] <Tobias> =[

[19:48:37] <Tobias> Well then

[19:48:43] <Tobias> I'll have to use iframes

[19:48:47] <This-Alex> eew

[19:48:54] <This-Alex> Dont

[19:49:25] <This-Alex> why would dnstools need a username / pass login?

[19:49:28] <Tobias> Then what do YOU suggest? >_<

[19:50:10] <This-Alex> have one site that controls login / logout

[19:50:17] <Tobias> Fail

[19:50:48] <This-Alex> why?

[19:50:59] <Tobias> Because that'd be an extra intermediate domain

[19:51:01] <Tobias> And regardless

[19:51:09] <This-Alex> they'd have to share a database, but it's fairly secure

[19:51:10] <Tobias> I can't change the cookie/session data for the other domains

[19:51:19] <This-Alex> I know

[19:51:24] <This-Alex> hence they share a database

[19:51:29] <Tobias> They're sharing a database anywhere

[19:51:36] <This-Alex> ok, then that's good

[19:51:47] <Tobias> O_o

[19:51:49] <This-Alex> ok, then that's good

[19:51:50] <Tobias> How'd that happen?

[19:51:52] <Tobias> Anyhow

[19:51:54] <This-Alex> what happened there :s

[19:51:57] <Tobias> They're sharing a database

[19:51:58] <This-Alex> [18:51] * Tobias (~Tobias@ip66-79-167-27.acciato.com) has left #frihost

[19:52:00] <This-Alex> good

[19:52:02] <This-Alex> So

[19:52:08] <Tobias> The servers are physically only a few metres apart :P

[19:52:09] <This-Alex> say pastebin.ws controls logins

[19:52:12] <This-Alex> lmao

[19:52:34] <Tobias> I got my server at the same place he did because he found a good host xD

[19:53:01] <This-Alex> lol

[19:53:05] <This-Alex> what place is that?

[19:53:12] <Tobias> Dedicated Box

[19:53:13] <Tobias> Crap site

[19:53:17] <Tobias> Excellent servers :>

[19:53:25] <Tobias> My server would have a year of uptime

[19:53:34] <Tobias> If they hadn't restarted my server instead of the one below it :<

[19:53:42] <This-Alex> lmao

[19:54:51] <This-Alex> Would you mind if I had a look at your dev.pastebin.ws code?

[19:55:01] <This-Alex> I'm a nosy fool :p

[19:55:41] <Tobias> Actually,

[19:55:43] <Tobias> I would mind :<

[19:55:46] <This-Alex> :(

[19:56:00] <This-Alex> Consider me a consultant :p

[19:56:06] <This-Alex> I'm not going to steal your code

[19:56:09] <Tobias> *glare*

[19:56:17] <This-Alex> Why don't you trust me? :s

[19:56:59] <Tobias> I get enough cricism from Daniel15 as it is :P

[19:57:05] <This-Alex> lol

[19:57:21] <This-Alex> Well I could help :p

[19:57:32] <This-Alex> And when is Daniel ever in this channel :s

[19:57:36] <Tobias> meh

[19:57:37] <This-Alex> do you confer on msn?

[19:57:37] <Tobias> Iunno :P

[19:57:40] <Tobias> He was on the other day

[19:57:41] <Tobias> mmhmm

[19:57:47] <This-Alex> so have you two met/

[19:57:48] <This-Alex> ?

[19:57:56] <Tobias> Nope

[19:58:00] <Tobias> But I have his phone number

[19:58:09] <This-Alex> lol

[19:58:26] <Tobias> He's in a different state.

[19:58:35] <Tobias> Which, if we were America, would be maybe 100km

[19:58:40] <Tobias> I think he's closer to 700km away :<

[19:58:57] <Tobias> Adelaide -> Melbourne != short distance

[19:59:19] <This-Alex> !==

[19:59:21] <This-Alex> :p

[20:00:04] <This-Alex> Is daniel an ooper :p

[20:00:12] <This-Alex> *?

[20:00:20] <Tobias> hm?

[20:00:25] <Tobias> Yeah

[20:00:30] <This-Alex> nice :)

[20:00:43] <Tobias> /He/ gets to take a university course on it :<

[20:00:50] <This-Alex> Computer science?

[20:00:52] <Tobias> I just learn off him xD

[20:00:53] <Tobias> Nay

[20:00:59] <Tobias> Software Development

[20:01:03] <This-Alex> Ah

[20:01:11] <Tobias> Both about the same, really

[20:01:22] <Tobias> 'tleast it doesn't have IT or Diploma in it :<

[20:01:29] <This-Alex> yeah :

[20:01:31] <Tobias> That === noob

[20:01:36] <This-Alex> :)

[20:01:45] <Tobias> brb

[20:04:42] <Tobias> Back ^^

[20:05:22] <This-Alex> Wb

[20:08:18] <This-Alex> Are you sure you don't want a hand with the code?

[20:10:07] <This-Alex> :p

[20:10:27] <Tobias> Quit :<

[20:10:29] <Tobias> Quite*

[20:10:35] <This-Alex> :(

[20:11:04] <This-Alex> A month ago you asked me if I wanted to help you build it

[20:12:46] <This-Alex> hello mr. sir

[20:12:53] <Hellios> hello sir mister

[20:12:57] <Tobias> eep

[20:13:00] <Tobias> Hellios doesn't like me :<

[20:13:04] <Hellios> no i don't

[20:13:06] <This-Alex> he does

[20:13:07] <Tobias> Farewell, cruel channel!

[20:13:10] <Hellios> bye

[20:13:15] <This-Alex> :(

[20:13:27] <Hellios> what do i care lol

[20:13:27] <This-Alex> Look what you've gone and done :"(

[20:13:49] <This-Alex> I was this close ' ' to getting him to let me look at his source :p

[20:14:02] <Hellios> need his msn?

[20:14:07] <This-Alex> i've got it :p

[20:14:09] <Hellios> so?

[20:14:13] <This-Alex> meh

[20:14:17] <This-Alex> irc is better

[20:14:25] <This-Alex> i don't like digsby

[20:14:33] <Hellios> yeah, but when you have no choice......

[20:14:34] <Hellios> :P

[20:14:42] <This-Alex> :p

[20:14:45] <This-Alex> i have a choice

[20:14:50] <This-Alex> i choose not to use it

[20:14:54] <This-Alex> the smilies on it are rubbish

[20:15:48] <Hellios> then you'll not see his code :P

[20:16:03] <Hellios> at least not now

[20:16:03] <This-Alex> meh

[20:16:05] <This-Alex> i'll live

[20:16:07] <Hellios> because i'm here :P

[20:16:12] <This-Alex> :p

[20:16:30] <Hellios> :P

[20:16:37] <Hellios> :b

[20:16:53] <Hellios> he'll be back

[20:17:01] <Hellios> i've disliked him before many times

[20:17:02] <Hellios> :P

[20:18:22] <This-Alex> lol

[20:18:24] <This-Alex> I'm sure

[20:18:24] <Hellios> now, recommend me a good pair of headphones

[20:18:26] <This-Alex> Anyway

[20:18:28] <This-Alex> got to go

[20:18:30] <This-Alex> Oh

[20:18:31] <Hellios> no

[20:18:33] <Hellios> stay

[20:18:35] <This-Alex> I saw a pair the other day

[20:18:36] <Hellios> and recommend

[20:18:38] <Hellios> >:|

[20:18:41] <Hellios> :P

[20:18:53] <Hellios> you know the model?

[20:18:54] <Hellios> :S

[20:19:09] <This-Alex> erm

[20:19:12] <This-Alex> i remember the site

[20:19:29] <This-Alex> i think

[20:20:47] <This-Alex> lol

[20:20:48] <This-Alex> bbl

[20:20:58] <Hellios> well

[20:20:59] <Hellios> :P

[20:21:03] <Hellios> look who's back

[20:21:18] <Tobias> Go away, evil Hellios.

[20:21:23] <Hellios> can't

[20:21:26] <Hellios> duty calls

[20:21:41] <Tobias> ;<

[20:21:58] <Hellios> Tobias, I don't have anything against you, I just don't like your recent personality ROFL

[20:22:06] <Hellios> :P

[20:23:06] <Tobias> Suure :<

[20:23:44] <Hellios> :P

[20:24:05] <Hellios> alex wanted to look at your code

[20:24:39] <Tobias> Annd? >.>

[20:24:57] <Hellios> so stay here till he gets back :P

[20:26:32] <Tobias> Nooo

[20:26:36] <Tobias> I don't want him to look at it

[20:26:45] <Hellios> :P

[20:26:56] <Hellios> it's not like he's going to understand i

[20:26:56] <Hellios> t

[20:28:01] <Tobias> It's clean code, actually

[20:28:04] <Tobias> Daniel15 has made sure of that :<

[20:28:57] <Hellios> didn't talk about that

[20:29:01] <Hellios> anyway

[20:29:02] <Hellios> http://www.frihost.com/forums/vt-98785.html

[20:29:17] <Hellios> "where i concier shit has to be perfect." - doesn't sound too good in that topic

[20:29:22] <Hellios> rofl

[20:30:35] <Tobias> ewww.

[20:31:12] <Hellios> lol

[20:31:53] <Hellios> getting into that level of perfectionism is... messy

[20:40:32] <This-Alex> If it's clean, then you have nothing to fear :p

[20:40:39] <Hellios> :P

[20:40:56] <Tobias> Noo

[20:41:02] <Tobias> I'm not letting 3rd parties look at my sourcecode >.<

[20:41:58] <Hellios> what about open source?

[20:42:19] <Tobias> It's not open source -_-

[20:42:27] <Hellios> it should be

[20:42:34] <Tobias> Why should it be? :/

[20:42:42] <Hellios> because i said so, of course

[20:42:46] <This-Alex> Tobias, I'm not a 3rd party :-/

[20:42:48] <This-Alex> I'm a friend

[20:42:53] <This-Alex> hellios : http://store.shure.com/store/shure/en_US/DisplayProductDetailsPage/productID.105181400

[20:42:59] <Hellios> no he's not, don't listen to him

[20:43:22] <Tobias> O.o

[20:43:29] <Hellios> ah, no m8, i said headphones... those big ones

[20:43:31] <Hellios> you know?

[20:43:56] <Hellios> nevermind then, i'll keep looking for reviews

[20:43:56] <Tobias> ooh

[20:43:59] <Tobias> I have some of those =]

[20:44:04] <Tobias> Well, my family does

[20:44:12] <Tobias> Not those ones in particular

[20:44:18] <Tobias> But really good headphones

[20:44:30] <Hellios> i know shure because of their microphones

[20:44:35] <Hellios> didn't know they make earphones

[20:46:14] <Hellios> bbl

[20:56:36] <Rvec> ello

[20:57:23] <Rvec> alex you there?

[20:57:42] <Rvec> remember the stuff I told you I was going to suggest?

[20:57:51] <Rvec> I suggested about half

[20:58:03] <Rvec> didn't want to put it all up at once

[20:58:36] <This-Alex> Hey

[20:58:39] <This-Alex> Ok

[20:58:42] <This-Alex> How did they take it?

[20:58:49] <Rvec> half of them liked the ideas

[20:58:55] <Rvec> the other half went defensive

[21:11:02] <This-Alex> how defensive?

[21:11:11] <This-Alex> and were they all programmers?

[21:15:53] <Rvec> no there was one php programmer and he went defensive

[21:16:10] <Rvec> the other php programmer wasn't there, but he'll surely go very defensive

[21:16:23] <Rvec> he wrote the code and doesn't like useing other people's code

[21:16:28] <Rvec> even if it's better

[21:17:12] <This-Alex> lol

[21:17:28] <Rvec> the delphi coders liked my ideas, but told me to be carefull in how to bring it to the other php coders

[21:17:29] <This-Alex> What kind of stuff was the programmer who was there saying

[21:17:37] <This-Alex> Good advice

[21:17:45] <Rvec> this code is working, so why change

[21:17:53] <This-Alex> Did you speak to them seperately?

[21:17:54] <Rvec> and what's bad about thisc code

[21:17:59] <Rvec> no all at once :(

[21:18:06] <This-Alex> Because it's unsustainable? lol

[21:18:12] <This-Alex> monolithic

[21:18:15] <This-Alex> disgusting

[21:18:21] <This-Alex> riddled with security holes

[21:18:31] <Rvec> that's about what I said

[21:18:38] <Rvec> and I showed him phpBB3 code

[21:18:45] <Rvec> and drupal 6 code

[21:18:59] <Rvec> and something I wrote for myself

[21:19:19] <Rvec> which I can show you btw

[21:19:27] <This-Alex> thanks :)

[21:19:34] <This-Alex> See Tobias, Yaron shares his code :p

[21:19:50] <This-Alex> Anyway

[21:19:51] <Rvec> it's a class for connectiong to ldap and registering users

[21:20:02] <Rvec> I did put the two together in one class though

[21:20:11] <This-Alex> :-/

[21:22:09] <Rvec> http://yaron.pastebin.com/m4f06cadd

[21:26:23] <This-Alex> Much better than the code you made when you first started coding :)

[21:26:44] <Rvec> :P

[21:27:21] <Rvec> about the same as the bf2 class isn't it?

[21:27:30] <Rvec> and the whatpulse one

[21:28:27] <This-Alex> Yes

[21:28:30] <This-Alex> One thing to note -

[21:28:46] <This-Alex> You're throwing and catching exceptions in the same function

[21:28:51] <This-Alex> just throw themn

[21:29:03] <This-Alex> leave it up to the calling code to catch the errors

[21:29:32] <Rvec> I tried in the destruct at first, but that didn't work

[21:29:42] <Rvec> so I thought I had to keep them together

[21:29:51] <Rvec> didn't have much time to try it all out

[21:31:02] <This-Alex> And you demoed it to them?

[21:31:09] <Rvec> yes

[21:31:21] <This-Alex> what was their opinion?

[21:31:38] <Rvec> they didn't see the point of using drupal or phpBB3 ><

[21:31:40] <This-Alex> *what were their opinions

[21:31:59] <This-Alex> Not using phpBB3 I can understand, but drupal...

[21:32:11] <Rvec> I told them those where only picked by me because I knew them and they where easy

[21:32:23] <Rvec> any software could work like that with ldap

[21:32:38] <Rvec> I could've picked joomla, egroupware, achievo, ....

[21:32:48] <Rvec> even mailservers, ftpservers

[21:32:55] <Rvec> irc servers if they want that

[21:33:32] <Rvec> then one stupid guy who doesn't know a thing about coding and can't even read an if/else script I wrote (no functions)

[21:33:54] <Rvec> he said that open source software was written by 13 year olds with too much time

[21:34:12] <This-Alex> And what did you say?

[21:34:24] <Rvec> and that it was never as good as the code written by the main programmmer who had over 5 year experience

[21:35:06] <Rvec> I told him most of those people had more experience then any of us and that even if it where 13 year old a k of them would be better than any of us

[21:35:25] <This-Alex> haha!

[21:35:50] <Rvec> I really hate that guy, even before today

[21:36:00] <Rvec> and I work next to him :(

[21:36:07] <Rvec> same desk

[21:36:54] <This-Alex> what did he say to your counter argument?

[21:37:22] <Rvec> nothing :P

[21:37:27] <This-Alex> :D

[21:37:36] <This-Alex> What did the others say?

[21:46:35] <Rvec> the helpdesk liked achievo

[21:47:01] <Rvec> and how it -with ldap- could connect to about everything else in the company

[21:47:51] <Rvec> and they said they where planning on useing something like that for custommer support, and might ask me to help a bit there in the future

[21:48:10] <Rvec> why am I always typing useing :S

[21:48:43] <This-Alex> :p

[21:48:54] <This-Alex> I found a good ticketing system the other year

[21:48:57] <Rvec> anyhow, everyone except for the php programmers at least thinks the idea is better than what's running now

[21:49:04] <This-Alex> :D

[21:49:10] <This-Alex> Awesome!

[21:49:37] <Rvec> but nobody is sure if changing the system is worth it

[21:49:44] <Rvec> what ticket system?

[21:50:51] <This-Alex> one sec

[21:53:22] <This-Alex> http://www.webresourcesdepot.com/customer-support-with-a-free-help-desk-software/

[21:53:29] <This-Alex> Open source, and company backed

[21:53:38] <This-Alex> in case that guy has one of his hissy fits :p

[21:53:57] <Rvec> nice

[21:54:08] <Rvec> ldap support? :P

[21:54:26] <This-Alex> probably

[21:54:33] <This-Alex> it's built on the zend framework i think

[21:54:37] <Rvec> cool

[21:54:43] <This-Alex> so it's most likely extensible or has ldap built in

[21:54:46] <Rvec> the site is down :(

[21:55:18] <Rvec> ldap isn't that hard to put in, so worst case scenario I'll have to extend the login/user class

[21:55:42] <Rvec> that's about how it's done in achievo

[21:56:07] <Rvec> an authentication class extended for ldap, mysql and one other format

[21:56:16] <Rvec> pop3 I think\

[21:57:34] <This-Alex> yeah

[21:57:40] <This-Alex> Nice to have abstraction :p

[21:58:03] <This-Alex> ooh

[21:58:08] <This-Alex> their site looks interesting

[21:58:14] <This-Alex> we'll be back on friday :p

[21:58:37] <Rvec> yeah :(

[21:59:06] <Rvec> bookmarked it

[22:05:44] <Rvec> rearranged my bookmarkes into dirs and subdirs, now it all firs on one screen again :)

[22:06:42] <Rvec> btw they also liked webalizer and ntop :P

[22:07:20] <Rvec> never had any stats for their server, I made some with a free tool :P

[22:08:45] <Rvec> gonna go now, cya

[22:11:49] <This-Alex> bye

[22:53:39] <Hellios> back

[22:53:45] <This-Alex> wb

[22:53:53] <Hellios> :O

[22:58:01] <Hellios> wow your chat was so boring

[22:58:06] <Hellios> i couldn't read it all

[22:58:55] <Hellios> can't you talk about normal stuff, like music, women, ethernet microcontrollers?

[23:01:58] <This-Alex> lol

[23:02:07] <This-Alex> normal does not exist :p

[23:07:15] <Hellios> naturally, you'll say that

[23:07:17] <Hellios> :P

[23:08:33] <Hellios> i'm off to play Brothers in Arms - Hell's Highway

[23:08:36] <Hellios> :D

[23:08:43] <This-Alex> addict

[23:08:45] <This-Alex> :p

[23:08:50] <Hellios> you can never play too many ww2 games

[23:08:51] <Hellios> ever

[23:08:54] <This-Alex> lol

[23:08:55] <This-Alex> ok

[23:08:59] <Hellios> plus i like the failing guns :P

[23:09:00] <This-Alex> I need to go fill in some job application forms

[23:09:07] <Hellios> lol

[23:09:09] <This-Alex> because I'm cool

[23:09:16] <Hellios> you're a lame coder :P

[23:09:19] <Hellios> just like rvec :P

[23:09:25] <This-Alex> and I'm jobless :(

[23:09:27] <Hellios> mr.t pities the coders

[23:09:34] <This-Alex> I'm a good coder for your info :P

[23:09:40] <Hellios> maybe

[23:09:47] <Hellios> but you don't even know how coding is possible

[23:09:50] <This-Alex> Just companies don't have a habbit of hiring under 18s :p

[23:09:54] <This-Alex> so

[23:10:01] <This-Alex> I don't know how life is possible

[23:10:05] <Hellios> so without people like me you'll have no job anyway

[23:10:06] <This-Alex> it just is

[23:10:06] <Hellios> :P

[23:10:10] <This-Alex> lol

[23:10:24] <Hellios> electronics ftw

[23:10:27] <Hellios> coding ftl

[23:10:28] <Hellios> :P

[23:10:33] <Hellios> j.k

[23:10:37] <This-Alex> I got an A in Electronics :p

[23:10:39] <Hellios> i use lots of coding too :(

[23:10:45] <This-Alex> :)

[23:10:48] <Hellios> oh really, what do you study?

[23:10:58] <This-Alex> I don't now

[23:11:02] <This-Alex> I did it at gcse level -_-

[23:11:05] <Hellios> but you got A

[23:11:06] <Hellios> :P

[23:11:08] <This-Alex> it was rubbish

[23:11:12] <Hellios> ohm's law? :P

[23:11:12] <Hellios> rofl

[23:11:27] <Hellios> ohm's law = genius in simplicity

[23:11:35] <This-Alex> the guy started teaching us theory about two weeks before the exam

[23:11:39] <Hellios> :P

[23:11:46] <Hellios> no wonder you hate it

[23:12:34] <This-Alex> ol

[23:12:36] <This-Alex> Don't hate it

[23:12:42] <This-Alex> Just don't fully appreciate it

[23:12:54] <This-Alex> hehe

[23:12:59] <This-Alex> I was in London the other week

[23:13:11] <This-Alex> Took some photos of hyde park and have made them into a big ass panorama

[23:13:19] <This-Alex> it's 50mb :P

[23:13:33] <This-Alex> almost crashed my pc trying to make it

[23:13:58] <Hellios> lol

[23:14:24] <Hellios> don't appreciate it? whatever you do with your pc cannot exist w/o it

[23:14:30] <Hellios> not enough?

[23:14:40] <This-Alex> I don't appreciate it as a subject

[23:14:40] <Hellios> want to return to mechanical calculators? :P

[23:14:52] <This-Alex> I appreciate what it gives me :p

[23:15:02] <This-Alex> If I'd been tought properly I'd like

[23:15:04] <This-Alex> it

[23:15:14] <This-Alex> but as it happens we spent two years doing naff all

[23:18:04] <Hellios> :P

[23:19:22] <Hellios> i like how simple electronics is

[23:19:49] <Hellios> you are always creating abstractions

[23:23:40] <This-Alex> Ok

[23:23:41] <This-Alex> bye

[23:24:54] <Hellios> lol

[23:25:07] <Hellios> hello prince

[23:25:18] <HalfBloodPrince> Hey

[23:25:19] <Hellios> alex is afraid to talk about things outside coding world

[23:25:41] <HalfBloodPrince> noncodeaphobia

[23:25:47] <HalfBloodPrince> I see =P

[23:25:49] <Hellios> yes

[23:25:53] <Hellios> dr. prince

[23:27:03] <HalfBloodPrince> :-D

[23:37:15] <HalfBloodPrince> Sweet, now 32.1 GB cleared :-D

[23:37:33] <Hellios> holy hell

[23:37:46] <Hellios> what abominations do you download that take so much space?

[23:38:19] <HalfBloodPrince> I realized I had 2 media folders (one was a copy)

[23:38:25] <HalfBloodPrince> and each was 9 GB 0.0

[23:38:35] <Hellios> :P

[23:38:55] <HalfBloodPrince> i deleted both because it's also on desktop PC

[23:39:12] <HalfBloodPrince> the other 20 GB was other stuff also on the desktop PC

[23:39:19] <HalfBloodPrince> I swear my laptop feels lighter now

[23:39:29] <Hellios> of course

[23:39:56] <Hellios> after defragmentation, hard disk has less distance to seek so it should feel faster

[23:40:07] <HalfBloodPrince> yeah

[23:40:14] <Hellios> it rewrites all data on smaller radius

[23:40:31] <HalfBloodPrince> I mean it weighs less on my lap after all the cleaning 0_0

[23:40:50] <Hellios> i prefer using advanced defrag tools, and put my games etc to closer radius than documents and work stuff (lots of simulators)

[23:41:03] <Hellios> :P

[23:41:31] <Hellios> so you're saying you somehow changed gravity by removing that huge amount of data?

[23:41:35] <Hellios> :P

[23:41:37] <Hellios> could be :P

[23:41:51] <HalfBloodPrince> :P

[23:42:05] <HalfBloodPrince> My desktop PC is beyond repair though

[23:42:13] <Hellios> of course

[23:42:19] <HalfBloodPrince> The only hope it has is to be totally reformatted with OS reinstalled

[23:42:24] <Hellios> i say linux repairs everything

[23:42:41] <HalfBloodPrince> i say linux can die

[23:42:44] <HalfBloodPrince> :D

[23:42:47] <Hellios> can't

[23:42:49] <Hellios> too many

[23:42:57] <Hellios> like chinese people

[23:43:02] <Hellios> you can't get rid of them

[23:43:12] <Hellios> they'll survive our races

[23:43:22] <HalfBloodPrince> :<

[23:43:30] <Hellios> doesn't matter to me though

[23:43:58] <Hellios> cultural loss is the sad part, other than that - i don't mind

[23:44:46] <HalfBloodPrince> What's ironic is that i hate paying for paid software that I love yet I hate linux, a free software 0.0

[23:45:24] <HalfBloodPrince> linux is great, i hate it because people use it to say vista sucks, and i lurve vista >_>

[23:47:02] <Hellios> you haven't used linux at all

[23:47:12] <Hellios> if you did, you haven't used a good distro

[23:47:20] <Hellios> if you did, you haven't used it enough

[23:47:31] <Hellios> this pretty much covers it

[23:47:39] <Hellios> enough is month+

[23:48:06] <Hellios> that's the time it takes me to try a new OS... used Mac OS X for 2.5 months and removed it

[23:48:18] <HalfBloodPrince> my brother has a mac

[23:48:19] <HalfBloodPrince> mac is crap

[23:48:26] <Hellios> it's not the best

[23:48:42] <Hellios> by using it you kind of feel that it was made for n0000bs

[23:49:02] <HalfBloodPrince> i have to use it in 2 years FOR 2 years

[23:49:09] <Hellios> :P

[23:49:13] <Hellios> you don't have to

[23:49:18] <HalfBloodPrince> i do

[23:49:20] <Hellios> linux is an option :P

[23:49:26] <HalfBloodPrince> trust me it's not

[23:49:28] <HalfBloodPrince> because the boarding school i'm going to for 11th and 12th grade

[23:49:35] <HalfBloodPrince> you can only use their laptops for academics

[23:49:38] <HalfBloodPrince> and they're all macs

[23:49:44] <Hellios> you can install linux on a mac :s

[23:49:49] <HalfBloodPrince> there's an apple helpcenter IN the school :O

[23:49:57] <HalfBloodPrince> the school won't let you

[23:49:58] <Hellios> still :X

[23:50:02] <Hellios> who checks?

[23:50:13] <HalfBloodPrince> it's school property

[23:50:18] <Hellios> who cares?

[23:50:18] <Hellios> :P

[23:50:27] <Hellios> like they'll know what to do lol

[23:50:45] <HalfBloodPrince> i think they get notified or something if a laptop gets tampered with

[23:51:01] <Hellios> it's just some software :P

[23:51:08] <Hellios> it's not like you're replacing ram

[23:51:46] <HalfBloodPrince> but...

[23:51:48] <Hellios> oh well, i'm not jealous to be you :P

[23:51:52] <HalfBloodPrince> i hate linux! >:(

[23:52:05] <Hellios> you can't hate something you know nothing about

[23:52:16] <HalfBloodPrince> i know it hates vista

[23:52:27] <Hellios> what are you talking about? :P

[23:52:34] <Hellios> i run vista and linux

[23:52:37] <Hellios> i like them both

[23:52:37] <Hellios> :P

[23:52:49] <Hellios> they go well together :P

[23:53:13] <Hellios> all my simulators are on vista

[23:53:32] <HalfBloodPrince> oh

[23:53:34] <HalfBloodPrince> brb